Russell & the Great Pyramid (continued)
A continuing Bible Student, holding the teaching of Russell as distinct from Rutherfraud (sic) posted the following:
By Alan on Saturday, February 07, 2004 -
What are some of the scientific features of the Great Pyramid? [Bible Standard 1977}
The first work of importance on the subject, proving the Great Pyramid has scientific features, was in 1859 by John Taylor of England. Since then the attention of many able men, including Prof. C. Piazzi Smyth, Robert Menzies, Col. Howard Vyse, Sir Flinders Petrie, Dr. Joseph A. Seiss, Dr. John A. and Morton Edgar, etc., has been given to the further study of the testimony of this wonderful structure and witness.
Many such features have been discovered; a few of the simpler ones are presented here.
Pyramid measurements are based on the Hebrew cubit, which is 25, 027 British inches in length. One Pyramid cubit equals is 25 Pyramid inches. Modern calculations have shown that the Pyramid inch is the 1/2 billionth part of the earth’s poplar diameter.
The length of each side of the base of the Pyramid is 365. 2422 cubits. Our astronomical
or tropical year has a mean length of 365.2422454 mean solar days. Also the perimeter of the base of the Pyramid is 36524. 22 Pyramid inches, the length of 100 years expressed in days.
Determinations of such accuracy were not possible to man before the 20th century.
The angle of slope of the sides of the Pyramid is such that they meet at an apex with a height of 232.52 cubits. The perimeter of the base divided by twice this height produces 3.14159+ or pi, i.e., the ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle. This relationship was supposedly first discovered by the Greeks, 2500 years after the Pyramid was built.
The mean distance from the earth to the sun is variously estimated as between 91 and 93 million miles. The vertical distance between the Pyramid’s apex and the socket base level is 5813.0101 Pyramid inches. This distance converted to British miles is .091837578 miles.
The Pyramid’s height is the one-billionth part of the distance to the sun. The precession of the equinoxes is caused by the gyration of the earth’s axis—the slow, orderly, progressive change in the position ofits axis of rotation. Due to the tilting of this axis the sun appears to cross the earth’s equator twice during the earth’s revolution around the sun. These two times are called the vernal and autumnal equinoxes, i.e., equal periods of day and night. Since the earth’s gyration is opposite to the earth’s revolution around the sun, the equinoxes occur every year a little before each complete revolution is made and are therefore said to precede themselves.
Theperiod of years in which the complete cycle is accomplished is called the "precessional cycle of the equinoxes."
The length of the precessional cycle is variously given because the rate of precession is not constant. In popular reference works a period of 25,800 years is given, which approximates its length based on the current rate. However, the figure for the average length of a complete precessional cycle is a mean between its greatest and least possible lengths. These figures are based on computations covering 2,000,000 years, which show the limits of the fluctuation in the precessional rate.
John N. Stockwell, M.A., in his Memoir of the Secular Variations, published in Smithsonian Contributions to Knowledge, Vol. 18, states: "the mean value of the precession... in a Julian year, is equal to 50" .438239; whence it follows, that the equinoxes perform a complete revolution in the heavens in the average interval of 25, 694,8 years."
This figure stated in Julian years of 365. 25 days, is equal to 25, 695.3 of the true tropical years.
Sir Robert Stawell Ball, in his Elements of Astronomy, p. 365, shows that the duration of the precessional cycle is 25, 694 to 25, 695 years.
The Great Pyramid of Gizeh in a number of ways records this cycle as being between 25, 694 and 25, 695 years. For example, Dr. John and Morton Edgar, well-known pyramidologists, after their many visits to and accurate measurements of the Great Pyramid, pointed out that the sum of the lengths of the two diagonals of the Pyramid’s base at the platform level (each being 12, 847.1764 Pyramid inches) is 25,694.3528 Pyramid
inches, thus indicating that many years; also the same number of inches is found again as the perimeter of the Pyramid at the level of the floor terminal of the Grand Gallery.
The position of the Pyramid marks the center of the land surface of the whole earth. There is more land surface in both its meridian (31st degree) and its latitude (30th degree) than in any other meridian or latitude of the globe. Its orientation to true astronomical north deviates only 5 minutes of arc to the west.
Such positioning many thousands of years ago required a knowledge of the entire world that could not be humanly ascertainable at that time.
Some of the earth-commensurable proportions of the Pyramid which have been worked out include the spheroidal shape of the earth, the proportion of the land and ocean surface of the earth, the average density and cubical bulk of the earth, the obliquity of the ecliptic, the length of the synodic month, etc.
Indeed, such knowledge evidenced at such an early age confirms the Divine authorship of the Great Pyramid (Job 38: 4-7).
Aside from these various earthcommensurable proportions, the Pyramid also demonstrates various mathematical proportions. The Pythagorean theorem is demonstrated in the King’s chamber. Named after Pythagoras, the Greek mathematician who supposedly discovered it, the theorem states that the some of the squares of the two legs of a right-angled triangle equal the square of its hypotenuse. "Pythagorean numbers" are so related, for example 32 + 42 = 52.
In the King’s Chamber, the dimension of the end wall diagonal, the length of the chamber and the cubic diagonal are in the exact relationship of 3, 4 and 5. Also, when half the King’s Chamber width (103. 0329 + Pyramid inches, denoted by 1/2W below) is taken as a unit of measurement, then the other dimensions of the chamber are proportionately related through the multiplication of square roots, as follows:
1/2W x square root of 4 equals width
1/2W x square root of 5 equals height
1/2W x square root of 9 equals the end diagonal
1/2W x square root of 16 equals the length
1/2W x square root of 20 equals the floor diagonal
1/2W x square root of 21 equals the side diagonal 1/2W x square root of 25 equals the cubic diagonal
Totaling 100.
Posting arising from that were:
By Jon
By the fact you follow a person who claimed to be a Christian, should even think about looking to the Great Pyramid for support for their beliefs. To make and support false dates with.
If makes a mockery of you condemning JW's because of their beliefs. I see no difference.
I see Ian quoted from SITS Vol 2
If Russell was not obsessed by the pyramid why go to the extent of the measurements and there meaning leading to the date 1914.
Then you quote from SITS Vol 3
Maybe the paragraphs before and after your quote .
The Great Pyramid of Egypt discussed in this Volume has not lost any of its interest to the author. Its Descending Passage still represents figuratively the downward course of mankind under the reign of sin and death. The First Ascending Passage still represents the Law Dispensation--God's Covenant with Israel made at Sinai and the course of that people under the domination of that Law. The Grand Gallery still represents the lofty heights of the teachings of Christ and His followers during this Gospel Age. The step in the upper end of the Grand Gallery still represents a marked change in the affairs of the world, lifting man to a higher plane. The connection between the top of the Grand Gallery and the spaces above the King's Chamber still represents the spiritual presence of our Lord in the Harvest of this Age, beginning with 1874.
We have never attempted to place the Great Pyramid, sometimes called the Bible in Stone, on a parallel or equality with the Word of God as represented by the Old and New Testament Scriptures--the latter stand pre-eminent always as the authority. We do, however, still believe that the structure of this Pyramid, so different from that of all other pyramids, was designed of the Lord and intended to be a Pyramid and a witness in the midst and on the border of the land of Egypt. (Isaiah 19:19) It certainly tells a very different story from any other art or relic handed down from its remote times.
Its wonderful corroboration of the Divine Plan of the Ages is astounding to everybody who really grasps it. It should be read with just as fresh interest as in the first edition, because its lessons have not altered or changed. We trust that new readers will get the same rich blessings from this Volume that old readers have received, and that thus we may glorify God together and rejoice in His provision of light and comfort on the way to the full ushering in of the glorious Kingdom of God's dear Son.
For a person not "obsessed" he seems to go on about the Great Pyramid.
I have no problem. You have the problem you seem to put your faith in the words of a man.
By Alan:
Jon
It's good to see that you do not have a problem. If you do not have a problem and I do not have a problem, then the discussion between us is over.
Why waste time on something that is not a problem to either of us?
By Ian
Alan, thank you for posting the basis of the pyramid calculations.
Quote:
Alan,
Pyramid measurements are based on the Hebrew cubit, which is 25, 027 British inches in length. One Pyramid cubit equals is 25 Pyramid inches. Modern calculations have shown that the Pyramid inch is the 1/2 billionth part of the earth’s poplar diameter.
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A Dictionary of Units by Frank Tapson
One of the earliest types of measurement concerned that of length. These measurements were usually based on parts of the body. A well documented example (the first) is the Egyptian cubit which was derived from the length of the arm from the elbow to the outstretched finger tips. By 2500 BC this had been standardised in a royal master cubit made of black marble (about 52 cm). This cubit was divided into 28 digits (roughly a finger width) which could be further divided into fractional parts, the smallest of these being only just over a millimetre.
My personal cubit is 19" (48 cm), & my thumb width is 1" (2.5 cm). It seems important to the calculations to measure to a precision of 0.0001". Such precision of measurement of a weathered structure with 19th C equipment is implausible.
As for the astronomical measurements, if you know the answer you want, you can work backwards with the arithmetic, choosing the appropriate units. Someone on the Premier Radio forum put a lot of effort into that.
It must be meaningless.
Alan, is this the calculation on which such dates as 1914 are derived? Have all the followers of Russell & Rutherford based their lives & witness on arbitrary measurements of the dimensions of a pagan structure?
Do you think Jesus returned in 1914 or some other ancient date?
Surely our LORD's command applies:
Mat. 24:23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.
26 "Therefore if they say to you, 'Look, He is in the desert!' do not go out; or 'Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do not believe it. 27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.
Alan did not post again on Reachout. He replied personally.